Nina - 00:00:00:

As a workaholic raised by workaholics, it's very easy for me to just be like, this is my whole worth. I'm not scheduling any other time because this is my whole life.

Dana - 00:00:18:

Welcome to Hustle and Gather, a podcast about inspiring the everyday entrepreneur to take the leap. I'm Dana.

Nina - 00:00:24:

And I'm Nina.

Dana - 00:00:25:

Courtney is taking a sabbatical this season to focus on her personal life and family, but the show must go on. Luckily, Courtney and I have been supported by a community of honorary sisters throughout our careers and Nina is one of them.

Nina - 00:00:36:

So this season, Dana will be joined by a new honorary sister each episode, and I am honored to be one of them.

Dana - 00:00:43:

And we are going to be talking with our guests about three important topics in the entrepreneurial journey, like team building, work-life balance and how to recover from tragedy both in business and in life.

Nina - 00:00:52:

Last week, we talked all about balancing owning multiple businesses and creating boundaries for ourselves with Aneesa Glines. Aneesa is the owner of Harmony Weddings and Events, a wedding planning company based out of North Carolina and the Graham Mill, an NC wedding venue.

Dana - 00:01:09:

So this week, the two of us are talking about the lessons we learned from Aneesa about business and life and some of the mistakes that we've made along the way. Well, that was a great episode with Aneesa.

Nina - 00:01:19:

Incredible. I know, I love her. She's so full of energy and it's like an inspiration.

Dana - 00:01:24:

She's like a ray of sunshine. Really is. Always.

Nina - 00:01:26:

Yeah.

Dana - 00:01:27:

I think I've only ever seen her like not peppy one time and I thought the world was ending. I was like, what, is this the apocalypse? Like what happened?

Nina - 00:01:34:

I mean, I've seen her pretty cloudy, but in general, sunshiny goodness.

Dana - 00:01:38:

Yes, yes, and so supportive and uplifting. My favorite overall takeaway, that's great. There were a lot of them. I thought that she had so many great, like, just nuggets, but I really felt like I resonated when she talked about. Our like concept of deserving things and getting rewards, how the mindset is like, oh, if I do X, Y, Z, then my reward is gonna be a day off or my reward's gonna be, yeah. And I really do think that I struggle with that. I don't think I've really put into words that that's how I look at my Monday or my Friday. Cause I typically take Monday afternoons and Friday afternoons off. So I work in the mornings cause I have not given up the full day off yet. I have my weekends off, so I feel like that's fair. But anyways, but I feel like if I don't get to the end of my inbox or if I don't get this task done, like I can't take the afternoon off. I have to continue to work until it's done.

Nina - 00:02:32:

I feel like overall for me, the takeaway was her creating that balance was making sure she equally scheduled time for her personal life, time for work. Because that's essential. Because for us, it's like, it's very easy to fill up the calendar with just work. Yes. So that to me was, it's super important as a business owner to create equal space for both of those things.

Dana - 00:02:55:

But I mean, do you, I think it's hard to do that too because there's seasons of life where it's hard to be that.

Nina - 00:03:01:

Like, to do that. Oh, for sure. Like, depending on how the season is going, especially with weddings. But finding some space in there to make sure your personal life fits in that calendar too is essential. Or else you're just never going to find that time.

Dana - 00:03:14:

I know. And what's honestly been so helpful for us is the kids have gotten older. And so like, we can go out to dinner without having to like, figure out a babysitter because before it was like an act of God to get out of the house.

Nina - 00:03:23:

Bless you.

Dana - 00:03:25:

Because like, you couldn't, like, you had to get a babysitter and then you had to get them all together. And now they're like old enough where you're like, here’s your two tasks, don't die when we're gone. Keep your phone on and we'll be home by, we still have to get home by like nine, because I don't like them sleeping by themselves, but still.

Nina - 00:03:43:

Kid life.

Dana - 00:03:43:

Kid life. Yeah, but it is, it's so easy. And like we would go months, months, months, months without going on a date.

Nina – 00:032:50:

Yeah, isn't that nuts though?

Dana – 00:03:51:

It's nuts.

Nina - 00:03:52:

And when you really say it out loud, it's like, wait, what's the point of living?

Dana - 00:03:56:

What's the point of, like how do you even maintain a relationship? Like.

Nina - 00:04:00:

Yeah. It's an eye-opening topic, I feel like. And I know you didn't want to say workaholic, but I'll say it. As a workaholic, raised by workaholics, it's very easy for me to just be like, this is my whole worth. I'm not scheduling any other time because this is my whole life. So I think overall, I think everybody can take a little piece of that and say, it's time to schedule.

Dana - 00:04:27:

But do you think it's because, Deegan comes from a place because you love, love, love your job? Or is it a place of pride almost?

Nina - 00:04:35:

I love my job. I love what I do. But I think so much, it's ingrained in you. And I see how Aneesa's family is too. It's ingrained in us, this is success.

Dana - 00:04:50:

So recently, every time I go anywhere or do anything or meet new people, and everyone's always like, oh, you have so many businesses, Oh my gosh, you're amazing, rock star, whatever. And I had a friend, Don Memoni, and they said the opposite. They were like, that's ridiculous. Like, basically not calling me out on it, but basically saying like, that's not sustainable in a way. That was super impactful. And for so long, you're praised for being, for the hustle.

Nina - 00:05:22:

The only one else that so many people see you is just that. Like some of my family members still see me, like not my immediate family, but like extended family, will see me, the first thing they say to me is like, oh, I've really seen how your business has grown. Wow, I follow you on Instagram and like your business is really booming. I'm like, what about Nina?

Dana – 00:05:41:

Is Nina booming?

Nina – 00:05:41:

Nina is crumbling. She is death. So like, sure. Finding that balance and going like, I am more than just this job. And I've seen her do that this year as a very close friend of hers.

Dana - 00:05:56:

Well, yeah. And what I've noticed, and you do this well too, I will have to say, is. That when you see somebody, it's not how is business. That's not the first question. The first question is how are you?

Nina - 00:06:06:

Yeah, I don't care. Yes. Like your business is secondary to who you are.

Dana - 00:06:11:

Yeah, yeah. I love that.

Nina - 00:06:14:

Hells yes.

Dana - 00:06:14:

I know, right? So start doing that with your friends. Stop asking about their business.

Nina - 00:06:19:

I also just think it makes us better humans to not put our whole worth on that.

Dana - 00:06:24:

Yeah, because it'll fail. You'll never do.

Nina - 00:06:27:

Right. And when you do fail, do you just suck as a person? Like say my business is done tomorrow. I made a horrible choice. Am I then not a good person? It comes back to deserve and worth. And if my business fails, does that mean I'm a failure?

Dana - 00:06:46:

Yeah, I mean, that's a really valid question. And I think that is where I struggle a lot, because people ask me all the time, like when I'm, especially when I'm going through like really tough times and you are questioning all your life choices. I mean, you recently, we've had many conversations about this and everyone's like, what would you do? I'm like, I have, I am nobody without it. And, and that's a really heavy thing to admit to yourself that that's how I feel about myself, that I am literally nobody. And I said that to my husband and he's like, you, he's like, you gotta be fucking kidding me, Dana. He's like, you can do anything you want to do.

Nina - 00:07:15:

Well, I think once you're successful at one business, not to say you definitely can do another one. I think you had the drive and the know-how and the skill to start another one.

Dana - 00:07:25:

Right. Just add another one on there.

Nina - 00:07:27:

I'm telling you what, literally, if I wake up tomorrow and I'm like, I can't do this anymore, I know I can go and do something else and be just as powerful.

Dana - 00:07:38:

Yeah. All right. That is very true.

Nina – 00:07:41:

Confidence.

Dana – 00:07:42

Confidence. Well, and I think it's, I think it's also recognizing you've separated yourself from the fact that you, you are not Wetted Kiss. You are Nina who owns Wetted Kiss. Yeah. All right, what's our next one? We want to do business or personal? Maybe we should sandwich business in there. Okay, let's do it. Business takeaway. I loved her tip of getting out of your workspace to actually take the day off, because I am terrible about that. Yeah. Like, I'll just stay home, and I love my home, but like, it's too tempting. I'll just, like, I'll get an email on my phone, and so I'll automatically grab my laptop. And so I love the idea of kind of making and doing your day that is fun and, you know, something with somebody. I mean, we've been texting and like, we always go to lunch. I was like, let's do something, like, let's actually do something other than just, although I love our lunches, but,

Nina – 00:08:30:

Yes.

Dana – 00:08:31:

Doing something, like scheduling an activity with somebody. Swimming.

Nina - 00:08:34:

Come over and go swimming.

Dana - 00:08:35:

Yeah, you should come over and come swimming.

Nina - 00:08:36:

Or when it's not 100 degrees out, let's take a walk. Yeah. My takeaway on the business side is those small steps, because I think as a business owner, it can be very overwhelming to go, okay, I need a change. How am I going to do this? But if you take those gradual steps, instead of looking at this giant thing, like I have to set boundaries, if you can just take that small step, I think that's really important.

Dana - 00:09:01:

Yeah. And it's so, when you think about it, how did you build your business? Like, a step at a time. Yeah. It wasn't overnight.

Nina – 00:09:07:

Take one step at a time

Dana – 00:09:12:

But yeah, I thought that was great advice. Because it was super overwhelming. It's like that. Like, have you ever seen, I'm sure I've seen a TikTok or something about how a woman's mind thinks, like, you're like, I'm going to do the dishes and you get into the kitchen, you're like, oh, I'm thirsty, get some water. Oh, there's not a clean cup. Oh, I left this, this rag out. Oh, I got to do here. And all of a sudden you're like in your closet. You're like, why am I here?

Nina - 00:09:33:

That's ADHD.

Dana - 00:09:37:

I didn't think it was being in the mind of a female.

Nina - 00:09:39:

Just talked about my whole life.

Dana - 00:09:42:

But I think that that's what happens when you are trying to approach a task that seems overwhelming. It's like, OK, well, I know what my end goal is, but she thought I have to do this, then I have to do this. But oh, but I got to do this first and I got to make sure I have this. And then it's just like, you know, fuck that. I don't want to do it. It's too hard.

Nina - 00:09:57:

It's like snowballs.

Dana – 00:09:58:

Snowballs.

Nina – 00:09:59:

But if you can do that one singular thing and say, at least today, I'm going to do this. Yes. Or is it AA one day at a time?

Dana - 00:10:05:

One day at a time.

Nina - 00:10:06:

Same thing.

Dana - 00:10:06:

Yeah, maybe we should have worked on some of those.

Nina - 00:10:07:

You're in recovery, yes. You're in like business recovery. Like trying to get your mind in a different place. And I think taking those small steps, like even just saying like what she said, on Mondays I don't need to do emails. Because Mondays it gets so packed in there.

Dana - 00:10:23:

Because you haven't looked at it since Friday. Oh, brutal. But so proud of her for that. Okay, what about your favorite personal takeaway?

Nina - 00:10:33:

I think it goes back to the calendar and putting stuff on the calendar. For me when she said like I wouldn't see my family. Like, and I know how important that is for Aneesa, like her mom and dad and her sister and her brother. And, you know, like seeing them is so important. And so not being able, just saying like, I'm gonna work so hard that I can't even see my family. Yeah, I think that's huge. And so, I think everybody needs to do that. And if that means writing it on the calendar, I am going to have dinner with them because they're the most important people in your life. And for you to go a whole month and you really just want to be with them and you didn't schedule time for them. That's heavy stuff.

Dana - 00:11:17:

It is.

Nina - 00:11:18:

Because what's the point of living?

Dana - 00:11:20:

Right, and it's hard as an entrepreneur. You normally got into have that flexibility and then all of a sudden you've created such a rigid life that you can't, that you, like you resent the shit out of your business because you can't live the life you want to live. It's tough.

Nina - 00:11:33:

And that's easy to do, especially when you first started out.

Dana - 00:11:36:

Oh, yeah. The grind is intense. Yes.

Nina - 00:11:39:

Reaching that goal and saying, I have to get my name out there, I have to do this, I was guilty of that. Right. Just constantly overworking myself to build a name. But I think it's incredible to schedule that time. Yeah. Because then you know that you get to see the people you love. That's important.

Dana - 00:11:58:

Yeah, and you need it. And I think it's a lot of times you see a lot of entrepreneurs and they talk about how lonely it is. That's why. Because you've created this world where there's no one else, there's no room for anybody else in it. You know, it's tough. Well, I loved her, she said it was her business coach. I wanted to say therapist, but maybe they're like the same thing.

Nina - 00:12:19:

Yeah, it's her business mentor.

Dana - 00:12:20:

Business mentor. How she said that quote, like, May whatever I do today is enough.

Nina - 00:12:27:

Right? Because I think we as business owners can easily. Create, okay, if I don't do these things, I failed today.

Dana - 00:12:36:

Yes. My productivity is not tied to my worth. Yeah. A lot of times it feels like it is tied to you. Like, I don't know, like just I don't say whatever, say like I'm not worthy, like, because I think that's a pretty intense thing, but it's, I'm not, I'm not able to relax. Like I'm not allowed to relax. I'm not allowed to enjoy this time. Like I'm constantly like my brain's never off, right? Because I didn't get the things done that I was supposed to get done today. Like this, that kind of intense, almost like I think I mentioned it in our, in one of the newsletters I wrote, like where we're like the judge, jury and executioner of our actions. And we put our own like, punishment on them. And a lot of times my punishment myself is like not feeling good about where I what I'm doing where I am because I didn't get to that.

Nina - 00:13:24:

You didn't get that done. Yeah. Yeah. But I also think there's there's so much liberation going, that's not who I am. And there's some days where I will call her or I'll tell my husband today I'm going to be potato. Like it's like my favorite new thing to be. It's like I want to dig a hole. I'm going to potato because I deserve the potato. And my whole identity is not this to do list. Right? Be a potato.

Dana - 00:13:51:

I know. I mean, I don't know.

Nina - 00:13:55:

You were, you went swimming on Sunday and you potatoed out in the sun.

Dana - 00:14:00:

I did, and the kids, they love playing Marco Polo and I actually hate Marco Polo with a deep burning passion.

Nina - 00:14:05:

Well, if you grew up in Florida, you're going to. Oh, I hate it so much. Because you hear it constantly.

Dana - 00:14:09:

All the time, and they play silent Marco Polo where you don't actually say Marco Polo.

Nina - 00:14:13:

How's that a thing?

Dana - 00:14:14:

It's just you're quiet and you have to try to guess whether or not it's based on the sounds that they make.

Nina - 00:14:17:

Did you make them play it silently?

Dana - 00:14:19:

No, that's just, they just wanted to make it harder. So that's what they did. And I'm terrible at it, one, because I can't hear very well out of one ear, so then it's awful. But I hate playing it. So I was like, I'm going to sit on the chaise lounge, I'm going to read my book, and then I fell asleep and I'm taking a 20 minute nap. And it was wonderful. And I didn't even feel obligated to get in the pool right away. I did get in eventually, because Henry was like, please come and play. And I was like, all right, you only asked me that for like how many more years, but.

Nina – 00:14:46:

Oh, so sweet.

Dana – 00:14:48

I know. But yeah, but even that, like you're, you question, it's even how you relax is like, how can I relax? Because, you know, I think for some people, like family time is relaxing, right? And sometimes family time is not relaxing to me. Sometimes it is, but sometimes it's very stressful, right? Like just jumping from one thing to the next thing. And that's not something where I need to recharge. I need to like be alone. And then you feel really guilty about that.

Nina – 00:15:17:

Helped. I don't get you.

Dana – 00:15:18:

You know, like just, I don't know. But I think to the point is like recognizing the fact that whatever decision I make, I However, I decide to care for my mental health, and I'm not harming anybody in the process. Be clear. Yeah. Not harming anybody.

Nina - 00:15:36:

It's not what this podcast is about.

Dana - 00:15:38:

Then it's enough. Then it's good enough. And I think that's like a really beautiful thing.

Nina - 00:15:43:

And work will be there tomorrow.

Dana - 00:15:44:

It'll be there tomorrow.

Nina - 00:15:45:

She's gonna be there waiting for you.

Dana - 00:15:47:

I'll get an email and it'll be like, you know, two days later and I'll reply to it. And I used to be like, oh my gosh, so sorry for the delay.

Nina - 00:15:52:

So sorry. I stopped writing that. Constantly apologizing.

Dana - 00:15:55:

I write the email and then I delete that. And I just say the fact.

Nina - 00:15:59:

I like that. It's kind of like the exclamation point. I put exclamation points on everything, like just to make sure that people know that I'm coming from a good place.

Dana - 00:16:07:

And you're happy.

Nina - 00:16:08:

Delete that sucker. Delete the sorry.

Dana - 00:16:10:

Yes, delete it. Yeah.

Nina - 00:16:12:

I'm not sorry, okay? Take the time, I'm being a potato.

Dana - 00:16:15:

That's right, be a potato. I think it's a good mantra, just be a potato.

Nina - 00:16:19:

And that's that. Signing off.

Dana - 00:16:24:

Okay, last thing, which is my favorite. Yes. Where have you fucked this up royally? Which I think we all can say all the time, but.

Nina - 00:16:31:

It's hard for me, I don't fuck up.

Dana - 00:16:33:

Never. About work-life balance.

Nina - 00:16:36:

Yeah, I think- On lock. I think for me, I kind of grew with Aneesa. When we met, I think she was two years in, I had freshly moved from New York City to North Carolina. And I think I looked at her and was like, okay, that's the bar. Not to say she was my mental health demise, but she was.

Dana - 00:16:57:

Aneesa.

Nina - 00:16:58:

It helped my business grow so much, but I also put that pressure on myself to like look at somebody else in my boat and go, okay, I gotta keep going too. Oh, she's at that network event. I'm gonna go to that network event. It helped drive me, but I also think at some point you have to go, I need to relax a little. And I think I spent a very long time not relaxing. It put my business in overdrive, but I also think it put my mental stability in undershambles. So I think that is my biggest fuck up, is just putting that too much pressure on myself.

Dana - 00:17:37:

I mean, totally relate to that. I mean, there are so many planners that came up with us at the same time and it wasn't, and you wanted to emulate them. So like, hey, well they're doing this show, so we have to do this show. Or they're part of this organization, so we have to be part of this organization. Oh, they booked X amount of people. And then it's like, why haven't we booked this amount of people? And it's this constant comparison. And then I think what it does is I definitely think it's helpful to like have mentors and, you know, look up to people or whatnot, but you lose almost your own, your own pace, your own pulse, but your own uniqueness in a way. Like you have, especially if it's like the same business you're comparing to, which you guys are not. Yeah. Business, but.

Nina - 00:18:13:

Oh, for sure. And I think it's essential to like listen to yourself. Yes. And it's hard to do that, especially in the beginning, because you just want to get as many, I always said. You're going to meet a bunch of people that aren't your people. And so that was my mentality. Not all these people are for me, so I got to keep going. I got to find the people that are. Which was amazing for my business, but there comes a point where you're like, I need to slow this down because I can't be out of my home every single night at every single networking event. I can't go to every showcase. I can't go to every possible mixer that I could possibly go to. So I think it's good to find that balance, that work-life balance.

Dana - 00:18:53:

Yeah, that's what we're talking about. I think it's hard in this industry. Ada always, when she was younger, she just was like, oh, you're going to another party? You're going to another party? Because that's how I just told the kids, you're going to a party. And I mean, and you look at our closets, like they are filled with like dresses and cocktails, dresses and formal dresses and like all these things. And we party a lot. There are a lot of parties and that it's fun, right? But then you almost develop this FOMO.

Nina - 00:19:21:

If you're not there, somebody else in your industry is going to be there. They're going to fall in love with that person. And that's going to be their new go-to.

Dana - 00:19:31:

That's what you say. That's what you tell yourself. So you're like, so you have to show up.

Nina - 00:19:33:

Right? Isn't that ridiculous?

Dana - 00:19:34:

It's so ridiculous. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. Cause it's just not the reality at all.

Nina - 00:19:38:

But it is something we all, I think definitely feel.

Dana - 00:19:41:

For sure. It's just that kind of, and again, I think it's praising that grind culture in a lot of ways. Yeah. It's just not necessary.

Nina - 00:19:47:

It's okay to grind.

Dana - 00:19:48:

It is totally.

Nina - 00:19:49:

I mean, get it, but it's okay to potato and grind. That's right. Combo pack.

Dana - 00:19:54:

So maybe it's the potato grind balance that we need to be talking about.

Nina - 00:20:01:

We'll make shirts for that too.

Dana - 00:20:03:

Okay, awesome. Yeah, so I think my biggest fuck up, I would say, it's kind of like what I talked to in the podcast, is forgetting that people were people. And I felt this when I was pregnant, when anyone on my staff is pregnant, there is so much fear with telling a client that I am about to have a baby, and then I want to take six weeks off, which is not unheard of.

Nina - 00:20:26:

Yeah, well, if you're having a child.

Dana - 00:20:28:

Right, to have a child and to recover and heal and all that stuff. And there's so much trepidation around it, that they would be upset about it. And so a lot of, for Henry, when I had him, I told my clients, but then I was like, but I'll be back to work in a few weeks. And I was back to work in a few weeks.

Nina – 00:20:44:

Oh gosh, Dana.

Dana – 00:20:46:

Because I just was so afraid of letting those people down. And in hindsight, I don't think they would have actually cared.

Nina - 00:20:53:

No, they would understand.

Dana - 00:20:53:

They would understand, because they're human.

Nina - 00:20:55:

You just gave birth.

Dana - 00:20:57:

But it's like, and I would love to say that's the one and only time that happened. It's not, it's happened many a times. And anything big was going on in my life or something. I never felt free to say, hey, I need an extra day or I need whatever. It's like, I have to live and die by that under promise over deliver or whatever. I have to live out that mantra. And I think that it made me hate my clients because I blamed them for my stress. Like, oh, I had the worst client, they wouldn't let me X, Y, Z. It was like, well, I never asked them.

Nina - 00:21:27:

You kind of set it up that way.

Dana - 00:21:29:

Yeah, I created the Bridezilla's and the Monsters because I didn't have the boundaries and I didn't, it wasn't transparent with them.

Nina - 00:21:35:

And you were responding at 10.30 at night when they were texting you. So it's our fault. It is. Yeah.

Dana - 00:21:41:

You know, of course, I mean, I've had three terrible clients.

Nina - 00:21:46:

Was I on one of those?

Dana - 00:21:48:

She was not terrible to me, but she was terrible to a lot of other people. The one that you're talking about. That one was just a whole other level of terribleness. But yeah, no, but I've had three genuinely, no matter what I did. And I know it wasn't my fault out of hundreds.

Nina - 00:22:03:

Yeah. So there's so many more just good humans.

Dana - 00:22:06:

So many good people. And I just didn't even allow them to be good people. I didn't even allow them to celebrate with me. You know, like, you think about if you told now, I can't even imagine. Like my last client that I had. She had a baby and I like. Made her a bunch of freezer meals, went and saw her a couple times. I know, and she was just like, in everything I do, she's so supportive of it. And I knew I could have those, I didn't know I could have those relationships because I didn't ever look at them as anything other than a client.

Nina - 00:22:34:

Right, you just tried to keep it business. Yes. Like, and if I don't set it this way, like I'm not a professional.

Dana - 00:22:39:

Right. And I think that there's a fine line between that. But I think that by saying, hey, like I'm a human, you're a human, let's share in this experience together of humanness of, you know, big life things like I bought a new house or I've.

Nina - 00:22:54:

You weren't like coming to her with like a negative, my life is crap, let me tell you all my crap and unload on you. You were saying like, I have this beautiful angel of a child.

Dana - 00:23:03:

Yes, I just had, and I'm gonna be out of, you know, pocket for six weeks. Yeah. So I can spend time with them. And I'm sure they would have all been like, that's amazing, I'm so excited for you, send me a picture, like, you know, but I never gave them that opportunity. Because I just assumed that they were all crazy.

Nina - 00:23:19:

Because of the pressure.

Dana - 00:23:20:

Because of the pressure.

Nina - 00:23:21:

Of just being a great business owner.

Dana - 00:23:23:

Yeah, and that's unfair to them.

Nina - 00:23:26:

When I look back on it. Yeah.

Dana - 00:23:27:

Yeah. So I'd say that's my biggest fuck up. Which I've grown from and I've changed. I don't say sorry anymore.

Nina - 00:23:35:

Nice. I like it.

Dana - 00:23:37:

Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I really thought it was a great episode.

Nina - 00:23:42:

I think she brought so much clarity to it. I'm walking away from this like, do I need to change something? I feel like I'm doing good, but man, this is another level. I need to go to Bali.

Dana - 00:23:53:

Yeah, I would love to go to Bali. Do you want to take a trip next week? That'd be amazing.

Nina - 00:23:57:

She also went to Iceland recently. That was kind of work related, though, but that looked fun, too. Yeah. More trips.

Dana - 00:24:04:

More trips.

Nina - 00:24:05:

That's what I need in life.

Dana - 00:24:07:

I do, I have subscribed to that. Like we traveled last year and so now I think we have one, I think of four trips planned for next year, from now until next year.

Nina - 00:24:17:

I think it's good for your brain.

Dana - 00:24:18:

So much so.

Nina - 00:24:19:

So good. Even just for me, like going to the beach for one day and hearing the waves does something to my brain and just like tells it to shut the hell up.

Dana - 00:24:28:

Yes, yes.

Nina - 00:24:29:

And it's good to just shut it off.

Dana - 00:24:31:

It's so good. So good. I love the beach. Well, thanks for being my honorary sister this week.

Nina - 00:24:36:

Of course, I loved it, anytime. It's been so fun. Hopefully I did Courtney proud. I did cry though, and I don't think that Courtney would have done that.

Dana - 00:24:45:

Courtney doesn't cry about anything. But that's okay.

Nina - 00:24:50:

I'm a softie, I can't help it.

Dana - 00:24:52:

Love it.

Nina - 00:24:53:

Thanks for having me.

Dana - 00:24:54:

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Nina - 00:25:36:

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